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William Gallas
He would die and cry for glory! And he never back down!
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True, but there's not too many players of Tony Adams' ability going round.
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im happy with that, always been a fan of him bein captain, but soon i'd hope it'd b given to cesc. i didnt think too much of the brum incident, more of showin that he cares rather than bein a sore loser (which i certainly am
) jus hope he can build on last season n cut out those "antics" as labelled by many so that ppl stop gettin on his back
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I think Gallas' performance at the Brum game was just one of many things that destroyed our season.
I think Cesc may be a good successor to Gallas, but I still think he's too young. Cesc as captain in 3 years+ would be ok though.
I think Cesc may be a good successor to Gallas, but I still think he's too young. Cesc as captain in 3 years+ would be ok though.
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In 3 years time, he'll be 24, which is a similar age to when a number of players were given the captaincy. I think Beckham and Barry were both around that age when they were given the captaincy, as was Gerrard.
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mash wrote:ye cesc is too young right now n 3 years time would probs b suitable for gettin the captaincy. except at the rate at which our players r leaving (espec the decent ones) in 3 years time cesc may b in spain
But until then
We've got Cesc Fabregas
We've got Cesc Fabregas
We've got Cesc Fabregas
We've got Cesc Fabregas
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i could very well be wrong, so i know i will get corrected
, but me thinks that tony adams was only 21 when he was made captain, i have opinions on this matter of captaincy, but i shall keep them to myself so i do not fuel any retrobution, as i want to stay happy and positive for the coming season, hence my avatar, the second and only other famous supporter of coventry city, other than david ike (but he just played for them i think) 

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I think Cesc's shoulders are big enough for him to cope with the captaincy right now but he is not losing anything by waiting another year or so whilst Gallas does the job again. Gallas showed excellent leadership for much of lass season until the fateful Brum game (and then stuffed up further with comments on Walcott and ruling Arsenal out of the premiership race after the loss at Chelsea when our season was still alive). Gallas' problem (and in a way it is also a reason why he makes a good captain) is that he is very passionate and wears his heart on his sleeve. This can lead to poor body language and also sometimes he doesn't know when to draw the line and not offer a comment on a particular issue. If Gallas misses a game through injury or is given a rest at some point during the season, hopefully we will see Cesc given the chance to wear the captain's arm-band to help blood him into the role that he will no doubt eventually assume.
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Some great insight there Lachie.
Best post for some time!
Good stuff mate!
Best post for some time!
Good stuff mate!
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We need to build on what was created last season and need stability more than ever. Changing captains is not something you do regularly without good reason.
He was made captain due to his experience and leadership abilities. Now that we have lost Gilberto and Lehman (for all his faults he was an experienced international), and to a lesser extent Flaminin and Hleb we need to steady the ship and nuture the youngsters who did so well last season as well as bring the new ones coming into the team such as Nasri, Vela, Wishere, Ramsey etc.
Showing passion for the club and commitment to the cause is what yongsters need to see from a leader and Captain Gallas certainly has those qualities. Lead us on William....hopefully to a trophy this season and bring on Cesc as your deputy, before he leaves!!
He was made captain due to his experience and leadership abilities. Now that we have lost Gilberto and Lehman (for all his faults he was an experienced international), and to a lesser extent Flaminin and Hleb we need to steady the ship and nuture the youngsters who did so well last season as well as bring the new ones coming into the team such as Nasri, Vela, Wishere, Ramsey etc.
Showing passion for the club and commitment to the cause is what yongsters need to see from a leader and Captain Gallas certainly has those qualities. Lead us on William....hopefully to a trophy this season and bring on Cesc as your deputy, before he leaves!!
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You're right Tony.
Wenger obviously knew something about Gilberto being past his peak, and decided that Toure was too quiet and that he didn't want his captain leaving for a month eery two years due to the ACN.
I'm looking forward to seeing Gallas hold up a trophy in May.
Wenger obviously knew something about Gilberto being past his peak, and decided that Toure was too quiet and that he didn't want his captain leaving for a month eery two years due to the ACN.
I'm looking forward to seeing Gallas hold up a trophy in May.
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With the personnel we have at present there is no else that stands out for the job. He will have learnt from last years experiences hopefully and be a better Captain for it. It would have been interesting if Barry had come as he is a natural leader. However, it's difficult making a new player the Captain straight away although it's been done succesfully at other clubs and in other sports. He has the experience and central midfield position to demand respect and take command right from the start. Obviuosly AW knows what he's doing though and with more young French players coming in Gallas is really the only choice.
Love the young ones coming in just wish we had one more experienced midfield player in there to steady the ship when things get rough. Hopefully he will find one in the windows.
Love the young ones coming in just wish we had one more experienced midfield player in there to steady the ship when things get rough. Hopefully he will find one in the windows.
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I'd like us to sign an experianced player, but I'd like us to sign a young player with experiance.
Although Nasri and Fabregas are both young, they're both experianced. I wouldn't mind us signing a 21-25 y.o. who's got a number of years behind them.
Although Nasri and Fabregas are both young, they're both experianced. I wouldn't mind us signing a 21-25 y.o. who's got a number of years behind them.
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Call for Arsenal's Williams Gallas to be stripped of captain
Former Arsenal defender Lee Dixon has called for Arsene Wenger to strip William Gallas of the captaincy.
Two games into the new Premier League season and Arsenal have so far looked unconvincing, winning 1-0 at home to West Bron before losing by the same scoreline against Fulham at Craven Cottage last Saturday.
In subsequent post-match interviews, Wenger blamed Gallas for Fulham's winner, but nobody could deny that the hosts were worthy winners, having outplayed their more illustrious London neighbours for much of the 90 minutes.
The goal came with 21 minutes played. From a corner, Jimmy Bullard arced his cross in and Brede Hangeland, the 6ft 5in Norwegian captain, rushed across the box and pushed the ball into the net with the sole of his boot. It was his first goal for the club.
Afterwards Wenger said: “It was the kind of game where you could not afford to make a mistake, and a massive one.
“You had to get into half-time at 0-0 and then win it. That’s the biggest regret I have. If you are focused you should stop them scoring at that level (knee-high) in the middle of the goal.”
Dixon, who played more than 600 games for Arsenal in 14 years at the club, watched the match in total disbelief at Gallas' half-hearted efforts, and believes it is time for a change in leadership.
He said: "It was the worst performance I've seen from an Arsenal team in a long time.
"Tony Adams was sitting just behind me and I said to him, 'Where's the leadership?'
"I blame the captain for that. I reckon Gallas is to blame. He's not leading that team."
Two games into the new Premier League season and Arsenal have so far looked unconvincing, winning 1-0 at home to West Bron before losing by the same scoreline against Fulham at Craven Cottage last Saturday.
In subsequent post-match interviews, Wenger blamed Gallas for Fulham's winner, but nobody could deny that the hosts were worthy winners, having outplayed their more illustrious London neighbours for much of the 90 minutes.
The goal came with 21 minutes played. From a corner, Jimmy Bullard arced his cross in and Brede Hangeland, the 6ft 5in Norwegian captain, rushed across the box and pushed the ball into the net with the sole of his boot. It was his first goal for the club.
Afterwards Wenger said: “It was the kind of game where you could not afford to make a mistake, and a massive one.
“You had to get into half-time at 0-0 and then win it. That’s the biggest regret I have. If you are focused you should stop them scoring at that level (knee-high) in the middle of the goal.”
Dixon, who played more than 600 games for Arsenal in 14 years at the club, watched the match in total disbelief at Gallas' half-hearted efforts, and believes it is time for a change in leadership.
He said: "It was the worst performance I've seen from an Arsenal team in a long time.
"Tony Adams was sitting just behind me and I said to him, 'Where's the leadership?'
"I blame the captain for that. I reckon Gallas is to blame. He's not leading that team."

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he does hav a good point...but the real question would be: who would u giv it to instead? cesc is perfect but probs a year or two away n kolo im unsure about. the rest hav no chance watseva...i say giv it to cesc next season n rid gallas n get micah to partner kolo n we're SET!!!
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hi ya mash, we seem to agree alot on opinions lately
, i guess it's cos we are the 2 realists (pesimists) ha ha, i am feeling really frustrated at the mo.... all about the arsenal
, im gutted senderos has gone, i guess i have the early season jitters


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i would give the captiancy to cesc, and i agree with what you said about gallas to mash, but i guess there are many opinions on the matter, but who would be vice captain, not much maturity and experience in the squad now, i guess with the average age of the squad being 16, they will have to wear a prefect badge in stead of captin's armband 

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i would probs opt for kolo playin vice to cesc next season...ur right about the young average age of the squad, we really need to bulk it up with some experience in all departments...but then again, we're ARSENAL, we're all about the f*** future, 5 years this, 10 years that...at least we'll be good in 2030
who cares about now? 
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i will be to old and decrepied and have senile demensa by 2030 so i wont give a f**k then i will be even more moany and negative by then, and i will smell of wee 

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thats wat shits me...we've been hammerin home about the "future" for the last 4 years...i jus wonder, really wonder, when wenger will finally giv a toss about "now", the "present", the time in which supporters are payin an arm and a leg jus to watch this young undermanned and underperformin team play...
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We've got a youth policy, but it doesn't mean that we can't win anything.
Look at the ages of the United side compared to us:
The first XI of United is:
Van Der Sar (37)
Brown (28) Ferdinand (29) Vidic (26) Evra (27)
Ronaldo (23) Hargreaves (27)/Carrick (26) Nani (23)/Scholes (33) Giggs (34)
Tevez (24) Rooney (22)
The first XI of Arsenal is:
Almunia (31)
Sagna (25) Toure (27) Gallas (30) Clichy (22)
Nasri (21) Denilson/New DM (21)/(?) Fabregas (21) Rosicky (27)
RVP (25) Adebayor (24)
When comparing ages, Arsenal's full-backs are younger, but not that much younger and you wouldn't suggest that it's a weakness or Arsenal. Our central midfield is younger by a significant amount, but Cesc is amazing for his age, and whilst Denilson isn't up to the standard of Hargreaves or Carrick, hopefully we'll get a new DM. On the wings we are a little bit younger in Nasri, but like Cesc he's brilliant for his age.
Finally, our forward line is older than that of United.
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Look at the ages of the United side compared to us:
The first XI of United is:
Van Der Sar (37)
Brown (28) Ferdinand (29) Vidic (26) Evra (27)
Ronaldo (23) Hargreaves (27)/Carrick (26) Nani (23)/Scholes (33) Giggs (34)
Tevez (24) Rooney (22)
The first XI of Arsenal is:
Almunia (31)
Sagna (25) Toure (27) Gallas (30) Clichy (22)
Nasri (21) Denilson/New DM (21)/(?) Fabregas (21) Rosicky (27)
RVP (25) Adebayor (24)
When comparing ages, Arsenal's full-backs are younger, but not that much younger and you wouldn't suggest that it's a weakness or Arsenal. Our central midfield is younger by a significant amount, but Cesc is amazing for his age, and whilst Denilson isn't up to the standard of Hargreaves or Carrick, hopefully we'll get a new DM. On the wings we are a little bit younger in Nasri, but like Cesc he's brilliant for his age.
Finally, our forward line is older than that of United.
Comments?
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